City MP tweets about 'twisted hate-filled republicans' over racecourse plans

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A MESSAGE posted on internet site Twitter by Lincoln MP Karl McCartney has strongly criticised people who oppose plans to bring back horse racing to the West Common.

The comments came after the Echo reported on the Lincoln Commons Advisory Panel's decision to reject plans for the racecourse and recommend the City of Lincoln Council's executive does not grant an initial lease.

Talking about the issue, Mr McCartney tweeted: "It says a lot that Labour councillors and anti brigade try to judge everyone's motives by their own standards and twisted hate-filled republican logic."

The note has left residents and the 600 people who signed a petition against a racecourse wondering whether Mr McCartney is listening to them.

Jane Kirman, 48, of Hewson Road, voted Conservative in the General Election. She said: "He should listen to the people who put him into power."

The Echo asked Mr McCartney how he thought people might feel. He said: "I would never insult the 600 people who signed the petition as they have rightly wanted to have their say, but the premise of the information in the petition is incorrect.

"The problem has been the way the proposals have been wrongly portrayed by those who willfully have done so, aided and abetted by certain media.

"Yesterday's story in the Echo started with the line 'plans to bring back racing on Lincoln's West Common'. This is not the case because the plans put forward are about looking at whether it is viable to do so and do not say it should definitely go ahead at all.

"This has been about The Lincoln Racecourse Regeneration Company Ltd and Lincoln Racecourse Trust being allowed to investigate if racing is viable."

The company, of which Mr McCartney is a director, is asking the council for a heads of term lease – a document which effectively leaves the door open.

It is with this lease secured that the company would start to work up a masterplan.

But the Commons Advisory Panel agreed that if the company wanted to create a masterplan, it should go ahead without the lease, which the company wants to demonstrate the authority is interested in the project.

The authority will decide later in the year whether to accept the recommendation.

Mr McCartney later edited his Twitter feed to read: "It says a lot that some Labour councillors and a tiny majority of anti brigade try to judge anyone's motives by their own standards."

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    by Jas, Off High Street, Lincoln

    Sunday, August 01 2010, 12:31PM

    “It will be a sad day for businesses and shops in Lincoln if racing is held on weekends and Bank holidays. With Carholme Road closed and traffic directed to go elsewhere with diversions in place all over in the city centre, this will kill off the city and local trade which relies on those days for shoppers, tourists, and visitors. I understand from Highways at County Hall, Long Leys Road and Yarborough Road will be the relief roads in place, and this is for the western part of Lincoln!
    Who will do their shopping in Lincoln where traffic will be gridlocked? Word would get around about the nightmariish situation. Motorists, tourists, visitors will avoid Lincoln like the plague on horse racing days and go elsewhere to spend their cash, say Newark. Not a happy scenario with disaster pending. My family business relies on weekends and bank holidays. With horse racing taking precedence, trade will not increase but diminish due to the effects of horse racing.
    I dread what will happen to Lincoln for the sake of the betting industry.”

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    by anon, lincoln

    Sunday, August 01 2010, 10:02AM

    “tory boy promoting a middle class sport... how unusual.

    Will they pay for the required upgrade in the road infrastructure to cope with the volume of traffic this would cause, or just expect us to absorb it without comment when we can't move around the city on race days saying 'it brings vital money into the local economy'... when the people servicing that economy can't move around the city to go shopping or get to work.

    An abhorrent sport supported by the middle classes.”

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    by John, Lincolnshire

    Saturday, July 31 2010, 12:12PM

    “The LRRC won't be paying tax for years to come if granted the lease by the Conservative ruling body at City Hall. Once the objective of making a profit is achieved then HMRC will ask them for detail accounts. Any accountant can hide figures and shift amounts of cash from one account to another. Notice that Karen Rastall's profession is an accountant and in the proposals uses figures and examples to substantiate so called credibility. But the intentions are flawed which Lincoln people have noticed.
    The MPs twitter and outburst over people who have said no to the project shows how immature he is over the matter. Will not accept a no so has a paddy in using various wording. So far nothing concrete to suggest that horse racing will be viable or sustainable for Lincoln.”

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    by Skip, Lincoln

    Friday, July 30 2010, 9:42PM

    “The main issue the article raises is the lack of professionalism of our figurehead. The fact he felt compelled to edit his own Tweet speaks volumes. Gerald Ratner had a more promising future after his famous comments than this 'gentleman'.”

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    by Steve, Lincoln

    Friday, July 30 2010, 8:50PM

    “At the moment the commons are for everyone to use and enjoy, so why should that right be taken away and the land given over to the chosen few to enjoy? That's without all the previously stated logistical problems that certain people want to ignore.”

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    by Ian, Newport, Lincoln

    Friday, July 30 2010, 6:46PM

    “Whilst I understand the involvement of our MP, as he was one of the people that conceptualised the idea for racing back on the common, the reality his involvement is slightly unhelpful now, as it does appear to polarise opinion for some people (not all however, as believe most see it as apolitical).

    I would also make the point that I don¿t think objectors should be seen as somehow keen to see Lincoln as a closed shop. I am as keen to see investment and jobs, but there is a balance to be struck in achieving this. I cannot help but think for this the potential detrimental effects to one of Lincoln¿s few open space amenities would be too great. This isn¿t a redundant brownfield site or a Greenfield site with little use other than agricultural. This isn¿t land that can be offset elsewhere.

    The other mystery to me that remains unanswered is why are not alternative sites, such as the point to point track at the showground and Greenfield sites aren¿t being considered, which surely would be part of any scoping exercise at the outset?

    I for one am glad Lincoln is changing and applaud the redevelopment of the Brayford on both sides, think the new apartments to east of brayford look good, welcome Lindomgate if funding materialises and think growth at Swanpool is going be of benefit. So problems with this site do not equate to a desire for regression rather than progression. It is a considered and objective assessment on the merits of developing this site, and this site alone.”

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    by Simon, Lincoln

    Friday, July 30 2010, 5:29PM

    “Good points Fiona, well made...

    There are issues you are right, just like there will be issues with any sort of idea development. However issues and the like are there to challenge ideally and not to put off. Giving up and having a "that will do" attitude will not allow any sort of progress to be made.

    Issues such as Transport can be worked on, and indeed progress hopefully will be made with the bypass completion. (Although I admit I am not sure of this Idea's true effect on transport as I don't know how it effects Market Rasen and it's Race days)

    Other issues like internal Infrastructure and rights of land can also be worked out and indeed should be encouraged to be worked out for the good of all. Rather then just being dismissive out of nature.

    I realise that the comment of closed minded may rattle some lids, however I really don't see how it's a little strong. Maybe courageous but that in its own right proves it's validity.

    Finally in regards to a impartial MP. I really don't see how it's of that great significance. Fact is, the overall willingness to be active is now there where it wasn't before. If small personal gains are made in this progress then so be it. That is Human Nature after all. So long as the bigger picture remains bright. If that makes sense.”

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    by Fiona Harris, Lincoln

    Friday, July 30 2010, 4:27PM

    “Simon Lincoln, I understand your comments, but alas feel that maybe closed minded is a little strong.

    I believe that the majority of people think that the closing of the A46 and Longley¿s road in order to bring back the famous Lincoln Mile Racecourse, is too high a price to pay. Lincoln's road system just can not cope with something like this, which affect two of its major roads (A46 & A57). It can not cope with daily traffic, never mind this. Something minor on any of the road networks within Lincoln can bring everything to a complete stand still.

    Secondly, this would mean that people living on Longley¿s Road would become prisoners on Race days as there would be no route out, as the A57 end would be closed due to the race and Yarborough hill end would be in-useable due to cars parked and the heighten traffic. As a resident of Longley¿s Road I am fully aware that we already have problems at the Yarborough end due Christmas Market and not to mention the cycle race. So this is not scare tactics but experience.

    Thirdly, the common would no longer be classed as common land and thus the variety of uses and users that currently use it will lose something extremely valuable.

    Fourthly, there is plenty going on in and around Lincoln for which it is famous, one such item was cancelled by the our beloved city council last year and this was the water front festival not to mention the closure of the tourist information centre due to lack of funds. So where are the funds going to come from? Funds would be needed to fund: - the extra policing needed on race days, for road closures, for waste collection, for a new grand stand etc, from our council tax maybe?? Or maybe like ¿concerned Lincoln¿ said volunteers, of whom I am sure, are few and far between.

    These are the things that people are concerned about, nothing to do with being closed minded.

    Oh a just one little other issue of course, our so called impartial MP, can not be as he is a director of the company who is trying to achieve this.”

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    by john, LN1

    Friday, July 30 2010, 2:47PM

    “Why do you hide behind your pathetic pseudonyms? You obviously belong to generation who are well out of touch with reality with your stupid names. Constantly making comments under different names, silly, silly man.”

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    by John, Skellingthorpe

    Friday, July 30 2010, 2:38PM

    “Swiss Toni, can you expand on the fact that Gillian Merron 'Voted against Bhurka Settlement rights' please.”

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