“Townie plebs, know your place!

We in the country do not answer to you! If something's a centuries-old tradition, then obviously it's perfectly right and moral! Just look at slavery as an example! It's no coincidence that it was the bedrock upon which the most powerful empires we've ever known were built, is it?

Mind your own organic politically-correct beeswax!”

“Missouri Marten, I would love to give you a definitive answer, but I can¿t. The truth is more foxes are killed now after the ban than before.

Why? I will be honest my next statement is speculative. Maybe the farmers and landowners, who were happy to let the hunt control the foxes on their land, now go out and shoot their foxes. Maybe the scent left by the hounds after they had passed keeps the foxes away for longer than the scent of a man. Meaning there are more foxes are now on that land more often than before. Which may mean that two of three foxes now die when, in the past there may have been only one.

The trouble is that there is no precise number of foxes that need to be culled to control their numbers. Previously there was a mix of efficient and inefficient methods which meant that the impact on the fox population was less than now.”

“Game Shooter, it seems like you're missing a key point. Are you saying that when hunting foxes with dogs was legal, nobody killed foxes by any other method and that if it is reintroduced then people will stop shooting them? If there is a precise number of foxes that need to be culled to "control" their numbers then it seems highly coincidental that only hunting achieves this number. And if it really is all about reaching such a number, then why do they continue to be shot once that figure has been reached?”

“i get by martin i get by.
and i'd rather be an uneducated simpleton than a cyber bully like you.”

“Again comments here show a lack of understanding.

Control is not eradication; control is about keeping number down to an acceptable level. Using inefficient methods means that the risk of totally eradicating a species is lessened.

History has show that in the past when the gun had been introduced a means of ¿control¿ individual species have suffered by being drive close to and even into extinction.

Foxes don¿t only kill pheasants but can devastate flocks of chickens, ducks etc. Toffs don¿t go shooting them!

Gin Traps have been illegal since 1958.

While legal I don¿t hold with snares. When I kill an animal I want it to die quickly. I am not cruel.

I don¿t kill for a blood-lust or whatever you want to call it, but for food or to protect my crops and livestock.

As for inferring that I am talking down to town dwellers, how do you think it sounds to us country folk when you start preaching about what is right and wrong?”

“Wind me up? Why would it possibly wind me up? You're the one making yourself look like an uneducated simpleton, not me.”

“@Martin, Lincoln

we will see about smarmy camerons majority.
and as for my grammatical error i've no need to learn the difference because i think you got the point or should i say full stop.
regards
nicky
ps and if my grammatical errors winds you up.
TOUGH i don't give a monkeys.”

“Nicky, he won't be the same because he won't get anywhere near as big a majority as Blair did.

Oh, and learn the difference between an apostrophe and a comma, please.”

“Well said, Game Shooter.

Being born in the country makes me 100% cleverer than everyone else and condescending with it (condescending means talking down to you all).

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to supervise the little people from the village who are cleaning my moat ready for the grand ceremony on Saturday when I marry my sister.

What-ho!”

“@Martin, Lincoln
"Blair got what he wanted is because he had bunch of useless mp's who'll just vote for whatever he says like Merron does."

are you trying to tell me smarmy cameron won,t be the same.
get real.”