'Essential weapon in modern crime war'
More than 10,000 children in Lincolnshire have had samples of their DNA added to a controversial national database.
The shocking new figures reveal that children as young as 10 have had their DNA stored after being arrested – although many were never charged with any crime.
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Legitimacy of retaining DNA samples has again come under scrutiny following a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights.
A total of 3,800 under-15s have had their genetic profile stored in the last 10 years – while a further 6,474 DNA swabs have been taken from 15 to 17-year-olds.
This year so far, Lincolnshire Police have taken 611 samples from 10 to 17-year-olds.
The rapid nationwide expansion of storing samples from arrested individuals has led to warnings over intrusion and calls to safeguard people's privacy.
But Lincolnshire Police has insisted that the use of such samples plays an important part in the war on crime.
Dr Helen Wallace of the campaign group Genewatch UK says she accepts the value such samples have in catching serious criminals.
But taking DNA swabs from the young is a step too far in her view.
"Increasingly it's being used for keeping the details of large numbers of children," she said.
"These are youngsters who have committed only minor offences and, in some cases, are people who were arrested and then proved to be innocent."
For more on this story, see Wednesday's Echo.







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by Mr Sneer, Derision on the Wold
Thursday, August 20 2009, 8:22AM
“"The only thing I can think of is to fully investigate your genome to see what recessive and dominant genes you have to see what fully makes your organic machine function. And they can get most of that from a photo or descripion of you."
LOL.
So a genetic susceptibility to cancer, MS or other diseases (all of which, by the way, your life insurance provider would dearly love to know about so they can hike your premiums) can be determined just by looking at a photo, can it?
You have so little idea of what you're talking about, it's verging on pitiable. However, your disgusting anti-libertarian stance has already rendered you beneath both pity and contempt.
Have a pleasant day, citizen.”
by Martin, Lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 4:55PM
“Ian, again I put to you, what is the big deal about any authority having your DNA on file? What can they do with it that they can't do with the stuff they already have on file about you anyway?
The only thing I can think of is to fully investigate your genome to see what recessive and dominant genes you have to see what fully makes your organic machine function. And they can get most of that from a photo or descripion of you.
The police or the government hardly care about everybodies genes that much, it's just that DNA is individual and can serve to accurately identify somebody should it be needed”
by Martin, Lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 4:46PM
“No they shouldn't Sneer, they should be kept.
J, why the police would want to know what latent medical conditions you have is beyond me, and what other sensitive data could they get that they wouldn't already have from the general description or photos that they may keep on file about you anyway?
Your DNA doesn't hold your identity, just your biological make-up.”
by Ian Bower, Lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 4:17PM
“Personally, I do not trust the Police or the Government with this 'Big Brother' approach (why should I?)
DNA should only be kept on file if a person is proved to be guilty.
My DNA is part of me, not the Government's property.
They already have my fingerprints (airport) my retiner image (airport again). Where will it end?
I am a British Citizen and, like it or not, I value my privacy - what's left of it.”
by J, Lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 3:13PM
“Fingerprints and photos could not be used at a later data to establish latent medical conditions or a whole host of other sensitive information.”
by Mr Sneer, Derision on the Wold
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 3:09PM
“Martin, the problem is that my DNA is not the state's property. As for my photo and thumbprints, they too should be destroyed should I be arrested and subsequently not convicted of a crime.”
by Martin, Lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 3:01PM
“I don't see what the problem is myself. Taking DNA is just the same as taking your fingerprint or photo, which I assume happens whenever you are arrested. It's just another form of IDing you should the need arise. It's not like Lincs Police are going to clone the youth of today or anything”
by nicky, lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 2:44PM
“DNA, Your Cells
possibly.if you were spitting or vomiting out the window when the camera went off.”
by M C Donald, Lincoln
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 2:40PM
“@ Nicky, you are right, we have to prove that we were not driving at the time and then we have to give the name of the person who was drive. Gone is your right to remain silent. Gone is the need for the Police to prove you guilty, you are guilty by being the registered owner of a car and not the driver.
That just re-enforces the case that our civil liberties are slowly being eroded in the name of 'justice' (see my second posting)”
by DNA, Your Cells
Wednesday, August 19 2009, 2:37PM
“They use DNA to work out if you were speeding?”