Lincoln students' protest over tuition fee fears

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Placard-waving students from Lincoln's universities will be staging a protest against tuition fees in one of the city's busiest streets.

The placards, showing the amount they each owe because of higher education debt, will be seen along the High Street on November 5.

The aim is to show the Government how its potential plan of removing the cap on tuition fees could lead to astronomical debts and many young people not being able to afford to go to university.

Bishop Grosseteste University College Student Union vice president Davina Robinson said: "If the fees are uncapped then universities can, in theory, charge what they want.

"It will create a class divide and prestige in universities.

"Students will be choosing universities based on what they can afford and the return they will get."

Kayleigh Turner is the University of Lincoln's vice president, for education.

"We want to raise awareness with students and how it will impact on them. It would affect thousands at Lincoln," she said.

And according to members of the University College's Students' Union, some universities are so sure that the decision will go through that they are already planning what to do with the money.

For more on the protest and the Government's proposals to uncap tuition fees, see Monday's Echo.

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    by Tom Myhill, Lincoln

    Thursday, November 06 2008, 10:23AM

    “In response to the comment from, Melville Street, Lincoln: The fact that you refer to socialists (such as myself) as 'filth' merely portrays you as being a bitter, ill-informed, unintelligent, BNP fascist sympathiser. Something you may wish to think about.”

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    by Georgina Vickers, BG uni

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 10:51PM

    “All the comments made today have made me very angry. By the time i finish University I will be in £25,000 worth of debt, and why? because i am training to teach your children. I have a job to pay for my social life and even if i didnt I would have to pay the laon back when finished!
    I don't understand why everyone has this view that they are paying for our fee's because your not!! the bank lend us the money and then we have to pay it back, including interest. There would not be doctors, scientists, teachers, vets etc without us going to university and then imagine what mess you would all be in, so stop moaning!
    It makes me very angry to see these remarks when all the majority of us are trying to do is further our education and help YOU! so next time think before you go off on one and we have a right to protest. If the goverment remove the cap, then we will be borrowing more money (which according to you, your paying for) so then you will have even more reason to moan.”

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    by Swiss Frank, The Alps

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 5:32PM

    “Sarah, why study for a degree if the salary at the end of it is only 15K? I earn more than that delivering Kleeneze catalogues in Berne. Also if you only earn 15k you will not be expected to pay one penny back anyway.”

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    by Sarah Fawcett-Howitt, Lincoln

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 4:37PM

    “I am a graduate from Lincoln university, I too have a debt of 14,000 which is growing each year do to the fact that I can't afford to pay it back. I'd need to be earning £15,000 a year to pay it back and so far I haven't achieved that and even if I did reach that threshold I'd only be paying back £5-£10 a month minimum, this would still not pay off the debt due to the interest, this is gonna result in me having this debt until I die no doubt.
    I resent anyone who says 'Oh, student, sponging off the taxpayer.' Well we don't, we pay our way. I got a job while at Uni because I was living on £30 a week, this wasn't enough to cover my bills, rent, food etc yet I had to survive on that, even after I got a job I was still only surviving on £60 a week and still having to find money to feed myself. Going out on a night was a luxury treat which would take a few weeks to save up for. If I went out when I had no money I wouldn't drink.
    To all you people who are behaving like Anne Robinson (ie, you hate students) ask yourself this, Is it right for the Government to plumit 18year old and upwards into enormous debt even before they've got the skills and qualifications they need to get the job they NEED to pay off the massive debt they've incured trying to make a career for themselves?
    The answer to that is NO! It is unfair to plunge young adults into so much debt. £27,000 to pay back once you've left Uni is a disgusting amount and now that the government are going to uncap fee's this means students or to you and me, the future teachers, doctors, politions etc. of this country are going to have a bill of £30,000 plus to pay back. I think it is disgusting the government can get away with doing this to the future hard working men and women of our county.

    Someone mentioned their work load while at Uni, my work load was 72 hours a week, where was I meant to squeeze in a job with a work load of that magnitude? Thankfully I did it, but I still didn't have enough money to survive on.”

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    by Francesca, Lincoln, Student at Bishop Grosseteste

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 3:00PM

    “I am disgusted at some of the comments left on this page ¿ particularly the fact that people seem to think we want our education for free, and the stereotype students are being given. I, for one, DO NOT go out spending my money on booze and coming home at stupid O¿clock, and I know plenty of other 'layabout' students who do not either. We cannot afford to do that! And I think it is very unfair to use the few 'bad eggs' that maybe do give students a bad name....what about all the ones who are doing their best? Trying to pass their degree to become teachers? Lawyers? Vets? Doctors? Need I continue? People should be able to go to University wherever they wish and study whatever they wish, it is their right! They should not have to worry about costs anymore than now, and certainly we should not and do not want a class divide in the University's! Can you honestly say that's the way you want your children to live?
    As for the wanting our education for free - maybe if you bothered looking into the issue and getting some FACTS you could make some more informed comments rather that picking at an issue you have no idea about.
    I could go on about this but I am stopping now. I really would have thought people would be more supportive of this issue, as I guarantee it will affect someone you know & love!”

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    by Nick Jackson, Lincoln

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 1:21PM

    “I'm a full time student, meaning that (in theory) is should spend 9 to 5 *every day* working towards my degree. I don't work those exact hours, but I easily spend an average of 8 hours a day on it. To cover my rent, living expenses, course expenses and travel I would need to work somewhere just over 20 hours a week at minimum wage, making my effective workload 60 hours a week. That doesn't cover my £3,000 a year in debt for tuition fees (which could become uncapped) either.”

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    by Melville Street, Lincoln

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 10:07AM

    “Agree with onlooker. The socialist filth jumping on the student's bandwagon is decidedly iniquitous.”

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    by onlooker, looking on

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 8:07AM

    “What really disappoints me is that the PCS union are getting involved. What has the matter of student fees got to do with them then? The statement by Nick Parker of the PCS union to me smacks of 1960's and 1970's extreme left wing Socialist militancy. Then you social malcontents selling their Socialist newsrags get involved. In my opion this degrades the the whole event into a debarcle and instead this becomes a Socialists and unions political event. The PCS union and Nick Parker and the Socialists should keep their noses out ad stop interfering with the students...”

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    by richard Head, Market Rasen

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 8:02AM

    “One week we have students complaining about these fees, the week before they were complaining about parking fines. If students can afford to run a car then they should stop moaning. It costs about £1000 per year to run a car before it turns a wheel, (Tax, insurance, service, MOT) Maybe they should sell the car and they wouldn't be so heavily in debt!”

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    by Sue McIntyre, Lincoln

    Wednesday, November 05 2008, 1:36AM

    “To the students who keep whinging about their rights to free further education I would like to tell you about my son. He is currently at university in Bristol and because my husband and myself could not afford to help him out financially he postponed going to uni for a year, instead he worked in a restaurant for a year and saved every spare penny he earned, when he had enough to pay for his first term fees, one months rent in a shared house and a months deposit to the landlord he then went down to Bristol. He immediately got a job, again, in a restaurant where he earns just above the minimum wage for two nights a week and the whole of the weekend. this pays towards his rent and next terms fees. If he earns tips he has a night out with his mates. Not once has he complained about having to pay his way because he was brought up to realise that if you want something you have to work for it. The university was built with tax payers money and your student loans come out of tax payers money also. So perhaps you should think about that at your protest tomorrow when you are trying to gain the sympathy of the dullard tax payer (student pauper).”

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