Lincolnshire County Council urged not to turn its back on wind turbines

“ALL electricity forms receive Subsidies!!!
Oil , Gas , Coal , Nuclear , Solar , Wind , wave , Tidal , geothermal , hydro.
Parliament Environment Audit Committee have just opened an inquiry into respective levels to get a level playing field. EDF new build nuclear are requesting 20% MORE subsidy than onshore wind.
Wave receives 5 times more, tidal 2 times more, solar 1.6 times more. Gas recently received £30 billion more for more drilling , artificially reducing the cost for near bankrupt gas power stations, internationally traded coal is a rock bottom price at moment due to foreign subsidies for non exportable gas and exportable coal!
Wind receives the Least Subsidy .
Debate the issues of which power station or which power form energy source is the most aesetically pleasing but question how much they all cost based on facts not guess work.”

“by jordanbuzunisTuesday, March 05 2013, 7:50PM
"All day and all night, rain or shine, renewable energy is a reliable way to keep the lights on in the 21st century. http://tinyurl.com/alpo3pr"

Well done, jordanbuzunis. Copying and pasting Al Gore's "Reality Drop" propaganda shows the depth of your thinking.”

“Wind turbines will never solve our problems. The only reason they are an option is the huge subsidies paid by our government. In the meantime we appear to be shutting down our existing power stations simply to comply with EU demands and have no plans for a nuclear alternative. If decisions aren't made now we face a bleak future of huge energy costs and at the same time rolling power cuts.”

“jordanbuzunis

You quote:-

"Clean energy is one of the fastest-growing industries in the world, accounting for more than half of all new electric power added in 2009 and 2010."

But would it be without the massive subsidies that we the consumers pay? Without those subsidies would baronial landowners site windmills on their ancient rural parkland, knowing that any planning rejection by the local authority will be overridden by the government.

I am a firm believer that everyone who is in Government and supports windmills should be forced to have one at the end of their garden. What!!, We can't have those monstrosities in Oxfordshire/Buckinghamshire/Surrey/Witney/Chequers/Dorneywood.”

“"Opposition councillors say Lincolnshire's biggest authority should "show leadership" in identifying future energy resources, rather than condemning wind turbines". - And there follows exactly no suggestion as to what alternate avenues the council should pursue. Call me old fashioned but I thought the point of 'opposition' was to present the alternate view not simply stand there naysaying!!

This article shows clearly the problem you get if you elect self-serving half-wits to be your councillor.”

“@Hermione46
Ref your comment stating "By the way you, like every other wind turbine zealot, forgot to explain the need for massive subsidy to build these things".
Just to clarify that my concern is the sad ignorance displayed by decision makers which results in avoidable degradation of air quality with guaranteed impact on health and environment. For me wind has the crucial advantage of being clean energy but I agree turbines should be positioned to avoid noise impact. The UK has an abundance of offshore space which means with joined up thinking turbines can be successfully incorporated into the UK energy mix. It is understood other Countries have experience of using wind to provide a significant proportion of their energy needs.

Ref subsidy and cost a current Lincs wood burning project details cost at much higher £10 million/ MW out and a subsidy guarantee to cover 75% of operating costs. The hazardous emissions scheduled to be hundreds of times higher than equivalent gas per unit of power out and the hazardous pollution created confirmed to have no safe level.

Wind turbines unfortunately appear to create a polarized or political standpoint which ignores the cost/benefit analysis compared with the use of alternative renewables . They all attract serious subsidies which will cost the public £billions but the LCC decision to apparently outlaw a clean renewable whilst supporting known dirty renewables creates concern Rgds Brian Wilson”

“All day and all night, rain or shine, renewable energy is a reliable way to keep the lights on in the 21st century. http://tinyurl.com/alpo3pr”

“Hermione46

Well put, these things have such large subsidies, no wonder companies want to build them everywhere. Power bills are expensive enough without the Government approving inflation busting rises in bills to subsidize these things.”

“Ranza 1

How nice to read a completely impartial assessment of the wind turbine situation. Having lived next to them in a different country I can assure that the visual intrusion is not the problem, it's the incessant thrumming of the blades....whomp,whomp,whomp. It takes over you life. You lay in bed hoping for a windless night.

By the way you, like every other wind turbine zealot, forgot to explain the need for massive subsidy to build these things. If there was a profit to be made from the constant supply of energy they produce there would be no need to bribe companies to build them. Solar panel subsidies diminish with the volume of uptake. Not windmills.

Don Quixote”

“Conservative Eddie Poll states "They are costly, dirty, unreliable, unsustainable and unwanted. If they really are the saviour that everybody says they are, let them operate without subsidy."
"Dirty"!! surely he cannot be serious, "unsustainable" !! they are driven by wind, "costly", check cost against alternatives.

"Unwanted" claim surely requires check on turbine impact against current biomass projects that will require hundreds of thousands of acres to be diverted from food to a 25yr biomass monoculture with serious agricultural job losses plus profound impact on biodiversity. The proposals include the use of fast growing trees, the current Gov. are encouraging farmers to embrace GM for non-food production and the GM industry claim trees can quickly grow to 27m (88ft) with potential to totally change the Lincolnshire landscape.

Wood burning is known to degrade air quality with impact adding £billions to health and environmental costs compared with gas , LCC insist on spending large sums of public cash on installing systems that will deliberately degrade air quality at schools and hospitals. Wind turbines do not produce any of the seriously hazardous PM pollution so where is the joined up thinking and due diligence required for Lincs energy policy? We surely need to prioritise the impact on health and environment when increasingly aware of the consequences. Rgds Brian Wilson”