Mixed reactions as mosque plans for Lincoln move one step closer

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Thursday, October 27, 2011
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A controversial scheme to build a mosque, supermarket and housing has led to both jubilation and resentment since it was given the green light by city councillors.

They approved outline planning permission for the mosque and houses at the old Boultham Park Dairy on Monday and the Islamic Association of Lincoln First says it is aiming to unveil detailed plans in the near future.

  1. Mosque1

    Design: A model of the mosque previously proposed for the Church Drive site. A similar design may be submitted for the old dairy

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    Lidl move: A new superstore is also planned for the site

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    The old Boultham Park Dairy site in Lincoln

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    The old Boultham Park Dairy site in Lincoln

Dr Tanweer Ahmed, trustee of the association, told the Echo he is thrilled that the quest for a purpose-built place of worship can now progress to the next stage.

"I am very happy and very pleased with the decision," he said. "We have worked so long for this.

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"Now, we need to apply for full planning approval which may take three to six months.

"The cost of building the mosque very much depends on its design and what is acceptable to planners and the Islamic association.

"My anticipation is the cost will be over £500,000."

The City of Lincoln Council received a petition against the proposals which had more than 500 names.

And opponents still remain concerned about traffic congestion and flood risk.

Chairman of Boultham Residents' Association Jean Flannery told the Echo: "Whatever the highways department says, we believe there may be more problems with traffic than we can imagine.

"We will be looking at the full details of what is proposed to see what might possibly mitigate the impact of all this on the community."

Mum-of-one Sophie Barker, 38, of Boultham Park Road, Lincoln, questioned the view of highways officers.

"The previous application for the site only 200 yards away from the dairy was rejected on traffic and parking grounds," she said.

"To get to this new site you'll still need to go either along the High Street, Dixon Street and Boultham Park Road so I don't see there's any difference.

"I'm against the whole development of the site.

"I presume it will be very busy on a Friday because of people going to pray and also a lot of people do their shopping on a Friday."

Plans for a new Lidl supermarket at the dairy site won full planning permission at the same council meeting.

The new mosque could be up and running in about two years' time.

Both the mosque and supermarket will be accessed from Dixon Street and the housing via Boultham Park Road. About 140 parking spaces are included in the scheme.

Dr Ahmed added: "We anticipate that we may have a small regular praying hall where we can pray five times a day.

"At present, five to 20 Muslims attend regular prayers.

"We will combine a smaller prayer hall with a larger community hall to create one big hall for prayers on Friday.

"In addition, there will be dedicated praying room for ladies.

"We anticipate that there will be a library and classrooms for children.

"The style may look like our previous plan at Church Drive which was rejected by the planning committee two years ago.

"I just want to thank both Muslims and non-Muslims who attended the planning meeting to support us.

"I believe it will be good that we work together with local residents and the residents' association to support this important development."

Mohammad Rafique, 50, a businessman who lives in Boultham, Lincoln, said: "I am overjoyed at the decision of the planning committee," he said.

"We have campaigned for so long to get to this stage."

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  • Profile image for Mrsuldog

    by Mrsuldog

    Sunday, July 08 2012, 4:43PM

    “I moved back to boultham last year and it's a great place to live, we have a good mixture of people in the area, and when the mosque is built it will drive a lot of people out. I have seen it in a lot of bigger cities where I've worked, where the house prices are driven down and a lot of Muslims buy the houses up creating a segregation between Muslims and the rest of the community. At the moment Muslims are integrated in all areas of the city, and it works very well. A lot of people around boultham don't want the mosque, and will be driven out of the area the've grown up in. it has already started, a lot of the houses are up for sale in panic. Lets hope this isn't the end of boultham as we know it.”

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    by davecobain

    Monday, March 05 2012, 7:18PM

    “I drove past the proposed site for the Mosque and wasn't at all surprised to see that many houses are up for sale, looking on local estate agents sites, many prices are reduced as they are looking for a quick sale. As expected, house prices are starting to fall, they will be purchased by Muslims, other local people will then get "driven out", house prices will fall further and the vicous circle begins. Eventually, after not so many years, Lincoln should have its very own Muslim neighborhood, complete with no-go areas at night, if we are lucky, we may be able to enjoy the wonders of multi-culturism as muslim radicals chant their vile hatred for all things non-muslim. At this point, the EDL and maybe the BNP will come in, and we definately have a no-go area, our beautiful city of Lincoln will be ruined....

    That however is simply the start, more Mosques will be built, Muslim schools will be needed, Christmas decorations will be removed and Christmas will be called Winterfeast, Mentions of Jesus will be 'modified', prayer rooms wil be built into public buildings at taxpayers expense, Lincoln enters the Islamification process. A great legacy for your children.

    Don't say I haven't warned you...”

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    by ozzy1069

    Tuesday, November 08 2011, 8:31AM

    “why on dixon street? its bad enough already! it takes me ages to get home on a friday as it is let alone with a mosque and shop! why cant they just use the grandstand like they normaly do? just convert it. and im sure if you lived on dixon street most of you would agree its a bad idea!!”

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    by Miss_Guided

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 12:56PM

    “Isn't it a bit of a nonsense to say 554 were against the mosque anyway? As I understand it many of them opposed the supermarket rather than the mosque.

    It's just the bigots that keep spewing this as anti mosque. Another example of their 'facts' I suppose.

    When will the penny drop that IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?”

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    by Bill_Door

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 12:28PM

    “mmm, Alison Ruoff. A member of the General Synod and the darling of the BNP which reported her comments as "starlingly refreshing". I expect they meant startlingly.
    Is it just me or is there some correlation between semi-literacy and an extreme viewpoint?”

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    by Mr_Sneer

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 12:01PM

    “"1. The previous issue re. traffic congestion has not been resolved. The planned parking area is inadequate and will overspill into the local residential area. Traffic along Dixon Street will be gridlocked."

    Pure opinion and one that people who are actually qualified in traffic management disagree with.

    "2. Islam is a third world religion which, among other things, treats women as second class citizens, advocates barbaric punishment for certain crimes and carries out inhumane ritualistic slaughter of animals (Halal meat)."

    Much like Christianity, then.

    "3. Local house prices will be driven down - I have facts & figures available if anyone wishes to see them. Southall and Tower Hamlets are prime examples of this."

    Yeah, because Southall, Tower Hamlets and Boultham share the same socio-economic profile, don't they? I can tell you right now that your figures will not demonstrate that the mosque is responsible for falling house prices in those two areas.

    "4. The loud 'call to prayer' is carried out five times a day."

    Not by every mosque it isn't. Have you established that this one will, or is it more guessing on your part?

    "5. There are numerous examples of mosques in the UK which have been found to have a supply of radical and illegal literature. Is this what we want for Lincoln?"

    How many is 'numerous' exactly and does it constitute a majority? I'm guessing not. However, are you also going to campaign against Catholic churches on the basis that a minority of priests have been found guilty of sexual abuse? Because I'm pretty sure we don't want that in Lincoln, either.

    "6. Alison Ruoff, a member of the Church of England's General Synod, called in 2008 for British Muslims to be prevented from building any more mosques in the UK. This is what she had to say:"

    What she had to say is the same unsubstantiated, bigoted nonsense that you keep spouting. That it comes from someone on the General Synod doesn't make it credible, just rather pathetic.”

  • Profile image for BethT

    by BethT

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 11:31AM

    “@WasYokel55
    Re-submitting deleted comments AND getting around a ban by using another account are both against the rules. Try to make it less obvious next time. In the meantime, bye-bye! =)”

  • Profile image for Mr_Sneer

    by Mr_Sneer

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 11:22AM

    “"It was made clear to them from the initial application made some years ago that the majority of the residents of Boultham DO NOT want a local mosque"

    NO. IT. WAS. NOT.

    You keep repeating this lie, but guess what? It hasn't become any the less a lie. There wasn't a majority back then, and now 554 people is still NOT the majority of people in the Boultham area, let alone the entire city. Do stop trying to claim otherwise, it's getting embarrassing.”

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    by uraheffer

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 12:49AM

    “"omg serouisly u really building the mosque in lincoln"

    omg omg we already have a mosque and some slimming clubs as well omg seriously lolololol”

  • Profile image for Gnome_Chomsky

    by Gnome_Chomsky

    Wednesday, November 02 2011, 12:15AM

    “Hopefully the mosque will attract people who speak and write in English.

    Is that just me being bigoted?”

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