“My first reply is to 'me, here'. Whilst it is true that we need to find alternative means to generate electricity unfortunately wind is not, and can never be, an alternative to nuclear or fossil fuelled power stations. Wind can only ever provide an additional supply of electricity because on many days, and often the coldest, it does not blow; this is when we need all the existing power stations to supply our needs. However many thousand turbines litter our countryside not a single conventional power station would be able to close.

As regards the RAF's objection to the Baumber windfarm it must be borne in mind at all times that Enertrag have a huge financial interest in this disastrous project succeeding and will say anything, however ludicrous, to further their cause. We must all object to this planning application by writing to Mr. C.Panton at the Planning Dept. ELDC and registering our disaproval. It is ironic that in many ways we owe our freedom to openly discuss and object to things which we fear will harm us to the brave men and women of the RAF who gave their lives in the last war.”

“So, Mr Linley thinks he knows more about radar operations than the entire technical expertise of the personnel at the MOD. I think this would cause most people 'in the know' grave concern - if the facts and figures bandied about by wind turbine companies (that they would have us believe) were applied in this situation then I imagine we would have aircraft falling out of the sky within days. The RAF have a superb safety record whilst maintaining a vital training / excercise program and looking after the defence of the country. You have a vested interest Mr Linley - come forward with an independant scientific report and offer to build these electricity generating plants at minimal profit taking no grants or subsidies (of our) money in the process and ensuring no additional wildlife or conservation detriment then we just may start to take you seriously. Otherwise please do not make any more stupid comments like this or you may find that what little support you have left for this type of development quickly vanishes.”

“These airbases are our frontline against airborne attack, the last thing they need is their eyes, their radar, to be obscured. Triangulation wastes time, and in modern warfare time is very precious. As a one-time radar man I know the deleterious effects that certain objects can have on the quality of the information coming in. Computers cannot fix all the problems.”

“Oo that toughed an ill informed nerve!!

I am by now means detracting from the brave people who make the decision to join the forces,or the families of those who are unfortunate not to have returned with their health or lives.

*HOWEVER*..... why are we at war, is it anything to do with defending this country?? or is it about taking power and an ideal geographical location for missile sites so we can intimidate other nations??? Does Afghanistan actually threaten our shore lines constantly?? Are we seriously at risk from terrorists??

If you want to talk terrorism then lets look at the facts about making people have a vaccination (that has not been adequately tested adn the situation is most likely the same as the influenza vaccine of 1976 which was linked to a devastating neurological condition called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS)) from a disease that is constantly hyped up in the media for no real reason other than to divert the attention of the nation!!!”

“So Mr. Linley of Enertrag wants to dictate national security and low flying aircraft safety issues now! I can't say I am surprised, afterall he has carried out a laughable consultation involving almost nobody so how could he know. How could he be aware that Lincolnshire always has been and always will be an Air Force county with close links to the men and women of the RAF.

It is no surprise at all that this little man is being squeezed from all directions with strong and well determined arguments against this futile plan to industrialise the Edge of the Wolds. His feeble Environmental Impact Assessment (I use the term loosely) is so full of holes it could have been bombed by the RAF themselves. Seemingly they have just scored a direct hit.

Either way the fight is being taken to the door of this amateurish company looking to profit from the misery of local people and perfectly willing to compromise the military and civil radar integrity of the region.

Good luck Enertrag it seems you have underestimated the Ministry of Defence, The UK Air Traffic Control Service and the resilient people of Lincolnshire.

I look forward to your abject failure.

Richard”

“Well Mr Linley you who are such an expert... you need to understand this is the wrong location and you havent bothered to really consult on many issues this included.
I am not only faced with the devastation of the unaceptable close proximity of these monsters but now run the risk of a serious accident accuring over my head. Please for the sake of sanity, pack up ur mast and bags and head off out of our lives...”

“they say it can affect the possibility of detection of aircraft over or in the vicinity.
It doesn't mean there will be a complete black out. So there may be a black spot around the turbines.
Surely the triangulation of the three bases will give a suitable warning of any aircraft approaching that area.
And anon it is very sad that people have been killed but perhaps you should be directing your anger at the commanders who send these people to war with insufficient ground equipment.
Secondly no one forced them to join the ARMED forces, they chose to go to war themselves.”

“well said anon i always wish the crews the best of luck when i see the planes out. they are there so we can enjoy our freedoms. As for mr linley what a first class idiot he is. He obviously does not factor in everything when doing the research as he didnt factor in the MOD and civilian air traffic issues. Do you homework in future mr linley and in the mean time practice the best form of customer relations.....mouth shut, ears open and brain working.”

“Me Here!!!! Do you wish then to tell the families of the 204 servicemen who have died in Afgan that it is a waste of time!!!
You fool!! the crews need to fly to keep current and give cover for the troops on the ground and the crews training from cranwell will probably be bringing the injured and fatalities home in transport aircraft.
Think before you come out with a stupid throw away quip!!!”

“I for one think that a good clean source of renewable energy is way more important then our apparent need for 24 hour flying of planes etc etc. Are we really under that much immediate threat??? Can we still justify the huge amount of money that are spent on keeping these planes in the air all the time, monitoring a threat that isn¿t really there. If we cut back a little on this kind of spending the country could probably sort out some of its other problems like the crumbling NHS or the appalling and pessimistic state of the pension system or even the roads!!!!

However you look at it, it is an undeniable fact that we will run out of fossil fuels very soon, and therefore need to find a suitable alternative and quickly!!!!”