“I dunt blame u m8 allso in this artickle it shuda sed "criterion" not "a criteria" it makes u wondir hu rights this payper a?”

“We WERE hoping to locate to the lovely village of Dunston. Not now I'm afraid. The risk of this going ahead is just too great for me and my family. House prices, quality of life?? And don't be fooled by the story of the anaerobic digester removing the smell. I have been round a few of these and even odour abatement systems will not remove the smell completely, and the AD plants that I ahve been around have not had to deal with waste as pungent and in the quantities that are being proposed here.

For all of the people living in the area, I really hope this does not go ahead. From someone who WAS desperate the locate into the area, you have my deepest sympathies. Fight hard and prevent this happening or be prepared to invest in a good fly killer and air fresheners.”

“What short memories we seem to have.
Not long ago we all saw the horrors of a
foot and mouth outbreak in this country and the effects it had on farming folk, who had spent years building up herds of various animals, only to see their hard work literally go up in flames.The faces of those farming people who REALLY CARE about their husbandry of captive animals is etched in my memory.The fact that so many milking cows were destroyed is in small part a
reason why these money driven,non caring,farming moguls give as a reason for this factory milking plant being the savior of us all.No way! I put the question to "Farmer" Wiles(or was it Farmer Giles?)who said an outbreak could not happen as all the cows were contained on this proposed unit with no comings of goings of livestock.The outbreak was passed on and spread by comings and goings of all of the following. Humans,livestock and transport vehicles.Cows having spent their whole lives providing our milk will die and will be spirited away without leaving the unit.As no incinerator was seen on the plans the good lord is going to be kept busy!This was not the
answer i expected from a farmer who says animal welfare is the companies prime objective.No constructive answer to the question,to me,means no unit to be built. Roger and Pamela Brook,Metheringham.”

“It annoys me when people say "if you don't like it move". I have owned cows and have no problem with the "normal" smell that comes with a herd grazing on fields spread over a distance. The noise and smell of living amongst 2 herds of 300 is fine...but 8100 in an enclosed space over a very relatively small area (for the amount of animals) is unthinkable and outright bad for everyone and everything in the area! Why should we up and move, uproot our children from their schools, look for another job (that are not that easy to come by) when someone decides "hey, let's build a huge dairy factory in Nocton/Dunston area of Lincolnshire..no one will mind us polluting that part of the country". I don't think so. We shall fight it every way and are glad we have known organisations that want to fight with us! SAY NO TO NOCTON DAIRIES!”

“Couldn't agree more Steve, Nocton. If you want to get some idea of what effect large-scale 'natural' manure has on a local population, just visit Ferry Lane, Skellingthorpe. The factory farm there has about 1000 beef cattle, reared indoors, never see a blade of grass, produce '000s of tons of manure which is stored in a huge pile, hundreds of metres long, as close to nearby residents as is possible to get.
No-one minds the usual farm smells such as muck spreading, its the incredible huge scale that is now impacting on the environment in ways previously unknown.. Want to get some idea of what LARGE-SCALE processed animal waste actually stinks like when spread in fields? Believe me, its a smell you have never experienced before - absolutely sickening, revolting. Just visit some of the fields around Skelly.
By the way, don't let the authorities fob you off with their lame excuse about it being ok to inject such disgusting stuff. It's not, it still absolutely reeks well beyond 'normal' farmyard smells. Such large scale animal exploitation results in smells the like of which no-one around Nocton/South Lincoln will have ever experienced.
Someone once told me that the single motivation for subjecting animals and residents to such appalling consequences is money, money, money, me, me, me. And if you don't like it then why don't you just clear off, there have always been farm smells in the country!”

“What's all the fuss about all of a sudden?

Unpopular decisions taken by remote local authorities are not going to bother you as care is taken to vote them through when you are distracted around Christmas time or on your summer holidays.

And small powerful groups factory farming large populations of trapped, docile creatures from conception to dinner time are obviously nothing new around here.

Agroindustry-friendly local authority decisions in favour of foul, revolting effluents have existed in Lincolnshire
since 1968.

If you don't like agroindustry-friendly local authority decisions in favour of foul, revolting effluents you shouldn't be in Lincolnshire (unless you were here before them, presumably).

Who's going to notice a few cases of hydrogen-sulphide-induced neuro-psychological dysfunctions characterised by impairment of memory, psychomotor and perceptual abilities and dissolving pantyhose in
Lincolnshire?
If you don't like it, sell your house for whatever you can get to the friend or relative of a local councillor and move.

Protestors - All your research is either too old or unconfirmed.

You are either living in the past, or you are not living far enough in the past.

Rather than complaining you should go and live somewhere else.”

“It¿s great that the RSPCA and WSPA are adding their voice in opposition to this factory farm - even if the planners are unable to take their views into account.

The planners are working without precedent; we do not have anything like this in the UK and our laws are frankly just not up to it. The scale is staggering; the buildings themselves are comparable in footprint to Wembley Stadium, the 8100 cows will produce as much sewage as a city twice the size of Lincoln. The impact on the environment to the south of the city will be enormous; sewage will be spread on fields from Bracebridge Heath to Ashby and Scopwick, several open ¿lagoons¿ of up to 30 million litres of urine and faeces, dispersed at sites around the south of the city will ensure that the smell travels for miles - this really is in everyone¿s backyard.

Research in the US tells an appalling story of these battery farms and many states have a moratorium on further developments. (Some more enlightened countries have now completely banned them). The University of Oregon says that factory farms manifest their impacts on rural communities in a variety of ways. Many studies have confirmed that they cause social problems, including decreased quality of life associated with smells that impinge on outdoor freedom and cause feelings of "violation, isolation, and infringement."

The planners may not be able to address issues of animal welfare or, indeed, the degraded, low quality ¿white water¿ that the factory farm will produce. However, environmental impact and ecological disaster is definitely their concern and we need to ensure that they are no doubt of the views of the population.”

“Note to Steve.. The smells I refer to are from the fields and storage tanks around Skelly which are used by farmers to store/inject the foul, revolting processed effluent from the rendering plant. This plant was a small rural renderers for decades. The abattoir was a small local abattoir for decades. What happens is that these plants expand and expand and expand over the years, At the same time the village changes from becoming a small rural place into a major dormitory town for Lincoln. These expansions, and consequent pollutions, become increasingly out of context with the area in which they originally started.
I feel really really sorry for people of Nocton. Trust me, this 8100 cow unit will just be the beginning of decades of ever increasing pollution, and as this happens the sort of comment you will get from some will be - why do you live there, there were cows and farms before you moved to the area.”

“Brian - no apology needed - I don't think we can say it enough - this is an environmental disaster waiting to happen. We don't have legislation that can cope with it - and we should be employing the Precautionary Principle, which may be invoked: "... where urgent measures are needed in the face of a possible danger to human, animal or plant health, or to protect the environment where scientific data do not permit a complete evaluation of the risk." In a nutshell, we need a public inquiry and a full risk assessment before this or any similar plans are allowed to progress.”

“Deborah,
Humble apologies for repeating your comment on aquafer pollution, I was writing at same time your comment appeared online.
Keep up the good work hopefully common sense will prevail !
Kind Regards
Brian W.”