“Wow, what a lucid, intelligent and comprehensive critique... NOT.

All you did in the run-up to the election was bang on about low turnouts and how nobody cared about it - which hilariously disproved your own point, not that the irony of that ever dawned on you, of course. And now you're back running your mouth off with another load of spittle-flecked, content-free ranting.

If you can't present a coherent, valid argument against the proposals then at least spare us your interminable frothing.”

“Erm it could very well be Special Constables he wants to recruit these are volunteers they also have more powers than the plastic plods that are called PCSO's who dont even have full powers of arrest.”

“So Mr WHINE will you give me a LUCID argument FOR Police Crime Commissioners. If you are convincing enough I may change my mind on the other hand...........oh look a Lincolnshire curlycoat just flew past my Office window!”

“I've just been reading a book about East Germany before the wall came down.

I think if he recruits the 1000 into a secret police force called the Stasi this will reduce crime significantly.”

“"So Mr WHINE will you give me a LUCID argument FOR Police Crime Commissioners."

Why should I when you haven't presented one against them? This is your train-wreck of a topic, don't look to other people to rescue it :-p”